'The Court of Appeal had applied the correct test, which was the objective test, and was thus right in overturning the High Court’s decision'
“Malaysia is a multi-faith country and it is important that we manage our differences peacefully, in accordance with the rule of law and through dialogue, mutual respect and compromise,”
“Malaysian Christians can still use the word ‘Allah’ in Church. The Government remains committed to the 10-point solution,”
Statement issued by the Prime Minister's Department
'I would like to congratulate the Christians in Sabah and Sarawak, for you can now see the true colours of the organisation that you’ve so enthusiastically supported for the past 50 over years'
Yeo Bee Yin DAP Social Media Strategist
'The judgment on the Herald‘s ‘Allah’ appeal was read in the Federal Court today. There have been loud, nasty and hostile reactions from the Chinese DAP supporters to the judges’ 4-3 decision'
Blogger Helen Ang
'The government's recent statement on the 10-point solution to the use of the word 'Allah' is hypocritical and is clearly made just to appease voters in the Sarawak state election'
Lim Guan Eng DAP Secretary General
Now read this post by Raja Petra:
If I were Umno I would never admit defeat. So much bad blood exists (and which is going to get worse over the next three or four years) and it is not easy to forgive and forget. There is a lot of what the Malays would call dendam. For Umno to just pack its bags and hand over power to its bitter enemies is a fate worse than death. And if I were Umno I would rather see a civil war.
THE CORRIDORS OF POWER
Raja Petra Kamarudin
If you want to know more regarding Islam and Christianity do not ask Muslims or Christians. The Muslims will start quoting the Hadith while the Christians will quote the New Testament.
If you point out certain verses from the Qur’an that contradicts what they say, they will tell you that you cannot ‘cherry-pick’ verses and take them ‘out of context’. You need to read the entire Qur’an to get the real meaning of those verses.
And if you point out certain verses from the Old Testament, the Christians will tell you that Jesus came to ‘change the laws’ and the New Testament has replaced the Old Testament. They will insist that you focus on the New Testament and ignore the Old Testament, which has been ‘abrogated’.
I remember back in 2008 when I was an ISA detainee in Kamunting and JAKIM sent an ustaz (preacher) to ‘rehabilitate’ me and lead me back to the ‘right path’. He gave a one-hour lecture about this Hadith and that Hadith. Not once did this ustaz quote the Qur’an.
After he ended his sermon and he asked the congregation of about 50 whether there are any questions, I asked him how many Hadith are there in total.
He stammered and said ‘many’. There are many Hadith.
He was the ustaz appointed by JAKIM to ‘rehabilitate’ me and he spoke an entire hour regarding the Hadith and he did not even know how many Hadith there are in total. So I gave him the answer. There are 700,000 Hadith in total.
There you are, he said. There are 700,000 Hadith in total. So this is why we need such sessions, he told the class of 50. Sometimes the teacher can learn from the student.
I then told the ustaz, but hold on, while there may be 700,000 Hadith, only less than 7,000 are accepted as sahih (or what the Christians would call canonised). The rest are what the Christians would call ‘apocryphal’. Hence less than 1% of the Hadith as far as Sunni Muslims of the Shafiee sect are concerned are authentic. Other sects accept only 500 while some reject all and refuse to accept even a single Hadith.
We never saw that ustaz again and for the subsequent twice-a-week ‘religious rehabilitation’ sessions they sent a different ustaz. I was also called to the office of the director of the detention camp and told to not embarrass the ustaz in public, who are there to lecture us and not to be lectured by us. But then what can you expect when you send brain-dead preachers to talk to us about a subject that clearly the preachers themselves know nothing about?
The trouble with Muslims and Christians is they read what is IN their ‘holy books’. They do not read any of the research done ABOUT their ‘holy books’. And they interpret what is IN the ‘holy books’ according to what biased and prejudiced ‘scholars’ tell them. Hence their knowledge is confined to what these so-called scholars want them to believe.
And what they have been told are a whole load of nonsense, conjecture, propaganda and whitewashing to make their religion look good and all other religions look bad. In short, you of my religion are the ‘chosen people’ while all those of other religions are the misguided ones destined for condemnation for eternity in the fires of hell.
Hence whatever the ‘believers’ tell you about their religion and their ‘holy books’ need to be rejected. If you really want to know the truth you need to talk to the unbiased and non-prejudiced ‘unbelievers’ who have done extensive research into the subject and have uncovered the truth regarding Islam and Christianity.
For more than 1,000 years, Islam and Christianity have always been in direct competition regarding who owns the truth. Muslims and Christians will get an orgasm when important people and renowned personalities from the ‘other side’ cross over to become one of their ‘flock’.
They will announce that so-and-so, a very famous person, who was once a Christian, is now a Muslim — or so-and-so, a very famous person, who was once a Muslim, is now a Christian. To both Muslims and Christians, this is a great victory that the whole world must be told about. The fact that this world famous person has now become one of us is proof that our religion is true and the other one is false.
Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, Shintoism, etc., can be regarded as religions, although they are more in the form of a philosophy or way of life. The Abrahamic faiths or Semitic religions, however, are political movements.
Jews, Christians and Muslims, however, would deny this and would insist that their religions are religions of peace and tolerance. And some Jews, Christians and Muslims actually believe this nonsense because they are too ignorant to know any better and they know very little about their own religion.
The Taliban, Al Qaeda, ISIS, ISIL, Muslim Brotherhood, etc., are labelled as radicals and extremists. Actually they are not radicals and extremists. They are true Muslims who uphold the real teachings of Islam. Those so-called ‘liberal’ Muslims who reject these ‘radicals’ and ‘extremists’ are not following the real teachings of Islam.
In the heart of Christendom you also have similar radicals and extremists. The only thing is since the last 200 years or so they have stopped killing deviants, apostates, heretics, etc., like they used to for almost 2,000 years. And this is because they have been told to follow the New Testament and not the Old Testament. This is like telling Muslims to stop following the Qur’an and just follow the Hadith.
In short, the modern Christians are no longer followers of Jesus. They have abandoned Jesus while Muslims still follow Muhammad. But if you were to point this out to them they will protest and tell you that you know nothing regarding Christianity and you do not know what you are talking about.
The Christians have not only turned their back on Jesus, they are also living in denial.
In Malaysia, race and religion are an integral part of politics. You cannot separate race and religion from politics. Umno knew this from the very beginning and that is why Umno plays the politics of the 3Rs — race, religion and royalty. As long as Umno is seen as the defender of the Malay race, Islam, and the monarchy, they can be assured of the support of the Malay heartland.
To break Umno’s hold on the Malay heartland the politics of the 3Rs must first be demolished. And if you cannot break Umno’s hold on the Malay heartland you need to isolate Umno by demolishing Barisan Nasional.
Umno can remain strong in the Malay heartland if that is unavoidable. But Barisan Nasional’s hold on the non-Malay heartland must be destroyed. Isolate Umno in the Malay heartland and demolish Barisan Nasional. Umno alone, without Barisan Nasional, will give them less than 50% of the seats.
But then Umno does not have the monopoly of the Malay heartland. It has to share the Malay heartland with PAS, the Islamic party. So the task of PAS is to split the Malays in the Malay heartland and DAP and PKR will demolish the non-Umno parties in the rest of the country.
Both Pakatan Rakyat and Barisan Nasional admit that Sabah and Sarawak are Barisan Nasional’s ‘fixed deposit’. It is because of Sabah and Sarawak that Umno is still in power. Hence Sabah and Sarawak must be turned to bring down Umno.
And this is what Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak’s team of so-called advisers are too stupid to understand. And because of this Umno may be history come the next general election in three or four years’ time.
The opposition has very skilfully played up the ‘Kalimah Allah’, Bahasa Malaysia Bible, conversion, body ‘snatching’, children ‘kidnapping’, etc., issues. Najib and Umno do not realise that the opposition set up booby-traps and they walked right into it.
These laws have actually been around a long time and they were never a problem before this. Only since the 2008 general election have these issues been stepped up and have become hot.
And now the voters in Sabah and Sarawak are extremely upset. Can Barisan Nasional retain Sabah and Sarawak? Even the top leadership of Umno does not think so.
In the past it was just Umno that played the politics of the 3Rs. And that was one of the main reasons why many Malay liberals, like me, rejected Umno. Now the opposition is playing this same brand of dangerous politics.
The issue of ‘Kalimah Allah’ is very damaging to Umno. In the end it may see the downfall of Umno when the Sabah and Sarawak voters reject Barisan Nasional, meaning reject Umno. In this whole episode Umno is seen as the aggressor while the non-Muslims are seen as the victims.
This issue is not confined to just the Christians. Even the non-Christians such as Hindus, Buddhists, agnostics, atheists, etc., are on the side of the Christians and are opposed to Umno. Umno is in for a damn hard time come the next election.
The opposition realises that issues regarding abuse of power, corruption, transparency, accountability, good governance, etc., are not enough to bring down Barisan Nasional or Umno. If it were then Barisan Nasional would have been kicked out back in 1990 or 1999 at the height of the anti-government movements. They need something more potent to bring down Barisan Nasional and Umno.
And what is more potent than the politics of the 3Rs?
So now the issue of Malay privileges, Article 153, UiTM, etc., need to be played up. They are even asking that the Malay Regiment be disbanded, much to the chagrin of the Rulers who feel that this is pushing things a bit too far.
The Christians versus Muslims (a more than 1,000-year-old ‘war’) and the ‘Kalimah Allah’, Malay Bible, and much more, are also being played to the hilt to demonstrate how Muslims persecute non-Muslims and how unfairly non-Muslims in Malaysia are being treated.
And many opposition supporters, Malays included, are questioning the constitutional monarchy, its relevance, the waste of money maintaining the monarchy, and how better off Malaysia would be as a republic.
Demolish Umno’s politics of the 3Rs and you demolish Umno. Demolish Barisan Nasional in Sabah and Sarawak and you demolish Umno. But you need to fight Umno by playing Umno’s game of the 3R politics. You must beat them at their own game.
Since 1990 it has been proven that the issues of abuse of power, corruption, transparency, accountability, good governance, etc., are not enough to demolish Umno. It needs something more potent than that. And there is nothing more potent than the politics of the 3Rs.
And that, in a nutshell, is what we are seeing happening in Malaysia today. And when Christians and Muslims have been at war and have been competing with one another for more than 1,000 years, it is not difficult to use this animosity as a strong political strategy.
Whether this strategy is working will be revealed in the 14th General Election. If Najib continues to sleep and continues to trust his half-baked advisers, then Umno is dead meat very soon. I would say it is a foregone conclusion that the way things are going we are seeing the last days of Umno.
What I am more concerned about is what will happen after that. Will Umno just pack its bags and hand power to Pakatan Rakyat and allow Anwar Ibrahim to take the throne in Putrajaya?
If I were Umno I would never admit defeat. So much bad blood exists (and which is going to get worse over the next three or four years) and it is not easy to forgive and forget. There is a lot of what the Malays would call dendam. For Umno to just pack its bags and hand over power to its bitter enemies is a fate worse than death. And if I were Umno I would rather see a civil war.
But that would be me. Maybe Umno is made of better stuff. But then when the issue is Malay versus non-Malays and Christianity versus Islam anything can happen because this is no longer just about politics.
I suppose Christians and Muslims will never be happy until they see the country burn and bodies piled up on the streets. This is what the Abrahamic faiths or Semitic religions are all about — war, war, and more war.
Christians and Muslims are the most idiotic people on this earth. 2,000 years of history has proven that. And both consider themselves God’s chosen people. And this is what my cousin e-mailed me:
Each of the three Abrahamic Religions (all of which have the same core belief, i.e. that there is a “personal” God who cares about us as individuals) came before their Good Books. So let’s look at the Religions first, and make the huge assumption that, whoever created them, did so with the very best of intentions.
Now, anyone today with half a brain can see quite clearly that Religion is causing tremendous strife all across the globe. So that means that those good intentions have been totally screwed up, since the opposite of what (presumably) was supposed to be the result of Religion is now occurring. And then we have the Good Books – the instruments to which all Religionists tend to point to justify their killing sprees and, by modern-day standards, their acts of barbarity.
Come on, please! If there is a personal God, was that God’s intention? If there is a personal God, to answer “yes” to that question would seem to me to be the greatest insult anyone could ever throw at their own God.
So, quite frankly, I think it seems a lot like Religions and their so-called Good Books are the Devil’s work!
Congrats to Allah’s soldiers
By Yeo Bee Yin
This must be a happy time for those of you who think you have won a war for Allah.
First of all, I would like to congratulate Perkasa and other NGOs who have screamed, shouted, and threatened Malaysians who disagreed that Allah should be exclusive to Muslims. Congratulations! You have won your holy war. Go celebrate.(My comment: The Apex Court ruling is strictly on KDN's power to ban the use of the word ALLAH in the Bahasa Melayu Section of the Herald)
Second, I would like to congratulate the four judges who dismissed the Catholic church’s application for leave to appeal against a decision upholding the government ban against its use of “Allah” as a reference to God. If you made this judgement to protect your own religion, congratulations for sacrificing your professionalism. (My comment: This is contempt of the Federal Court, the Attorney General should file contempt charges against Yeo))
Third, I would like to congratulate the Home Ministry, for it was you that filed an appeal against the High Court ruling that the Herald can call on Allah. (My comment: Yeo conveniently forgot to say that it was the Herald which brought the Court action against the KDN in the first place)
Fourth, I would like to congratulate Umno, for you have been successful in engineering the war over Allah to distract Malaysian Muslims from the rising cost of living, your corrupt practices and your inability to govern and lead. Oh, Umno, you are such a political genius.(My comment: The court action was brought by the Paderis of the Herald! what has it got to do with UMNO?)
Fifth, I would like to congratulate the Christians in Sabah and Sarawak, for you can now see the true colours of the organisation that you’ve so enthusiastically supported for the past 50 over years.(My comment: Yes, there lies the crux of the matter the bashing and hasuting of the DAP..they are after the Christian votes in Sarawak and Sabah using the same formula they used in Peninsular Malaysia making people hate BN so that they vote DAP. The diverse Sarawak and Sabah Bumiputras are not as gullible as the Chinese in Semenanjung when it comes to who to vote, and I don't think those outside the town center would trust DAP anyway, so I think DAP tactic won't work but the divisiveness they instill will polarise communities which have been living side by side in peace and harmony for hundreds of years, too bad Najib threw the ISA out )
As for me, call me whatever, catch me if you like, charge me if you can, I will continue to believe and stand on the principle that everyone in this country is given by the Federal Constitution the liberty to practise his or her own religion and to express himself or herself. By the principle of natural justice and liberty, Allah should never be exclusive to any particular group of people. (My comment: The Cabinet 10 point solution should be able to take care of the issue amicably, as long as people like Yeo do not instigate)
To my fellow Malaysians who are Bahasa Malaysia speaking Christians, remember this: They may take “Allah” away from the Herald, but they can never take God away from your heart. Be strong and courageous, continue to love and pray for them who persecute you for they know not what they are doing. (My comment: Stop using religion and make us fight with each other to get votes lah)
God bless Malaysia. (My comment: Indeed this is a very blessed Country for people of all races and faiths, where in this world can a minority religion sledgehammer the majority in Court and then pretend to be victim of persecution when they lost?)
Yeo Bee Yin is the State Assemblywoman for Damansara Utama
'In the Herald ALLAH issue, have the DAP found a weapon to pierce BN armor in Sarawak and Sabah?'
Me
And by the way I do believe that Yeo Bee Yin clever lady that she is, have committed Contempt of the Federal Court when she wrote:
I would like to congratulate the four judges who dismissed the Catholic church’s application for leave to appeal against a decision upholding the government ban against its use of “Allah” as a reference to God. If you made this judgement to protect your own religion, congratulations for sacrificing your professionalism.
Hope the AG would act without fear or favor in this unwarranted attack on the credibility and integrity of the Judiciary.
2 comments:
Are the people in Borneo naive enough to fall for DAP's trickery?
This is a Semenanjung matter.
Smart people that bring damages. Individually and finally to our country.
The best is, our Hakim, start doing their work now. Not just listen and do judgement.
Something is not right out there. Oppo politics have been misused, targetting Islam and Christian as their political weapons. Sensitive issues. Something that ISA forbid that had been abolished by our so called PM of Reformations.
Raja Petra's political view about Umno, was quite true. Dendam and fight for the sake of Umno's suppoters - Real True Malays. Stronghold that Najib denied.
Liberal Malays - Melayu oghang putih ! When they talk and discuss about religion, especially Islam, in their mindset, all religions are the same. The faith is the same. The God and Allah are the same. True/ Sahih Hadiths that are not important. They are good in philosophy and twist around logical thinking.
Islam teaches us to be human ( insan) and to apply to our daily living, finally to the whole system for the rakyat and country.
It must be in the bless of Allah SWT of which ISLAM was pronounced as The Only True and Acceptable Religion . None other!
The rest living in denial ( syirik, maksiat, kemungkaran and all sorts, mix together with so called logical thinking defining sacred faith)
Makan minum benda haram, berjudi, berzina, mabuk arak, dadah - tunggang langgang, beri/makan rasuah dan semua berlawanan kehendak Allah SWT, masih MELAUNGKAN mereka tetap BERSOLAT !!! What pigshit...
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